Trail Boss ~ Min, Max, but what about Inbetween??

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Re: Trail Boss ~ Min, Max, but what about Inbetween??

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Although Trail Boss was originally meant for lead bullets in pistols it has become a popular powder for cast bullets in many rifle calibers. Here is the IMR information.

https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/upload ... ds-r_p.pdf

Given my experience in the Mauser I will be trying it in 30-06 and 308 next as soon as I finish my Mauser project.
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TrailBoss has been my favorite powder for a few years, but became harder and harder to get my hands on lately. During the last three years I only managed to buy it twice, and emptied the shelves each time.

Because of our EU-chemical substance regulations, nearly all US powders will disappear from our stores next year :(
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Fyodor wrote:Because of our EU-chemical substance regulations, nearly all US powders will disappear from our stores next year :(
Oh man!
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Fyodor wrote:TrailBoss has been my favorite powder for a few years, but became harder and harder to get my hands on lately. During the last three years I only managed to buy it twice, and emptied the shelves each time.

Because of our EU-chemical substance regulations, nearly all US powders will disappear from our stores next year :(

Is the Tin Star powder sold by http://www.vihtavuori.com/en/powders/tin-star.html a possible replacement? I have never tried it but from what I have read it is a bit faster than TB but cleaner burning and better metering. It looks expensive but it comes in a 1.1 pound can (.5kg). TB is a 9 ounce one and when I did the math Tin Star and TB came out about the same allowing for slightly heavier loads with Tin Star.
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Tin Star doesn't provide anywhere near the case fill that Trail Boss does and because of that, you need published data to follow.
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Ranch Dog wrote:Tin Star doesn't provide anywhere near the case fill that Trail Boss does and because of that, you need published data to follow.
Vihtavuori list loads for 5 handgun calibres. I have seen reports of it being used in the 30-30 but I strongly support sticking to published loads from a trusted source. I find having all my fingers useful :D
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Macd wrote:Vihtavuori list loads for 5 handgun calibres.
Yes, including traditional wild west cartridges like .44 Magnum, but not these modern day stuff like .44-40. :?
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Fyodor wrote:
Macd wrote:Vihtavuori list loads for 5 handgun calibres.
Yes, including traditional wild west cartridges like .44 Magnum, but not these modern day stuff like .44-40. :?
LOL I didn't notice that. Kinda misnamed powder then. Must be someone loading for the 44-40 (44 WCF) using that powder.
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Got to the range today and tried out 13-15 grains of TB. Best group at 50 yards over iron sights. (I can hardly see the darn target lol) was 14 grains - Average FPS 1419. Remember this was a rifle that wouldn't hit the same target twice. Five shots at 50 yards. One inch squares.
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This rifle has a history that intrigues me. I bought it off a friend who got it from the son of a WW2 veteran who was in the Canadian army during the liberation of Holland. The son said his father found it in a burned out German Opel truck. He brought it back to Canada and had a local guy sporterize it. Not a great job but not as bad as others I have seen. It has all matching numbers and was made in BRNO in June of 1944. It is too modded to return to full military yet I can almost see the soldier that carried it. Perhaps he died in that truck or was wounded or captured. Regardless, I am holding a piece of history every time I raise it to my shoulder. I know I can get it to shoot better and am determined to bring out its best.
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Shooting looks good, any chance of getting a picture of the rifle?
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