I need an opinion on a mould value ......
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I need an opinion on a mould value ......
An associate came into a pile of good moulds , all of the big 3 . He offered me pick of the litter and 3 had my attention right away .......
I hate putting a price on someone else's stuff . The 2 266??? Singles are easy but what about the 257312 4C , it probably comes from about the time of the change from Ideal to Lyman so it is a Craftsman's mould and would seem to be in good low mileage shape . The question is what is an out of production 4C Lyman worth ?
He said they're on the way send what you think they're worth ....... I have no idea ? Frankly head and heart don't agree either .
I hate putting a price on someone else's stuff . The 2 266??? Singles are easy but what about the 257312 4C , it probably comes from about the time of the change from Ideal to Lyman so it is a Craftsman's mould and would seem to be in good low mileage shape . The question is what is an out of production 4C Lyman worth ?
He said they're on the way send what you think they're worth ....... I have no idea ? Frankly head and heart don't agree either .
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Re: I need an opinion on a mould value ......
Yeah, that is a tough one. Actually, he is the guy that needs to come up with a value I think.
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Re: I need an opinion on a mould value ......
I have arrived at a window value for the 3 moulds . I think he said they all have handles as well .
My head says be a critical buyer and pick every nit when it arrives . My gut says send the man fair market and gravy for freight because high market is $300 for them with handles . The status of the 257312 let alone a 4C with handles makes it a $150 mould in serviceable condition to a collector . The Man is a machinist that runs parts finished at 280 then starts polishing , when he says good I have to take his word for it . They will be here in a day or two . The 257 Roberts should be in 7th heaven and I'll have a 4C Lyman to show off next to the Cramer #45 and the Lachmiller triple . Nope not a collector it's just working out that way .
My head says be a critical buyer and pick every nit when it arrives . My gut says send the man fair market and gravy for freight because high market is $300 for them with handles . The status of the 257312 let alone a 4C with handles makes it a $150 mould in serviceable condition to a collector . The Man is a machinist that runs parts finished at 280 then starts polishing , when he says good I have to take his word for it . They will be here in a day or two . The 257 Roberts should be in 7th heaven and I'll have a 4C Lyman to show off next to the Cramer #45 and the Lachmiller triple . Nope not a collector it's just working out that way .
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After 18 days in the mail they are here.
WOW Any trepidation of price is gone .
WOW Any trepidation of price is gone .
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Re: I need an opinion on a mould value ......
I'm trying to give $75 for a mOld on Marlin Owners (expensive to me) but I can't get a usable PM.
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Re: I need an opinion on a mould value ......
Looks like it's new unused unless my eyes are failing me
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It is used but not much .
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Re: I need an opinion on a mould value ......
I bought it despite no advice. It's an old school Ranch Dog 311165 six holer with handles. Should be perfect for my 66 year old waffle.GasGuzzler wrote:I'm trying to give $75 for a mOld on Marlin Owners (expensive to me) but I can't get a usable PM.
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Re: I need an opinion on a mould value ......
It will work, this is the rifle I designed it for. A bit about the mold. Originally, I referred to it as the TLC311-165-RF but later changed the designation to TLC311-170-RF to better reflect the weight of the finished bullet. The problem was that the software I use generates a name based on the features and a rounded weight, but it was not allowing for the weight of the gas check in that name. Somewhere in the mid-'80s, Marlin tightened up their production (probably as old school tooling was replaced) and the nose profile, a tangent ogive, is not appropriate for these rifles through present production without trimming the brass way back to accommodate the fat nose. I designed a second 30-30 Wiin bullet, this with a bore rider nose, and it is a bit lighter so it became the TLC311-165-RF.GasGuzzler wrote:I bought it despite no advice. It's an old school Ranch Dog 311165 six holer with handles. Should be perfect for my 66 year old waffle.GasGuzzler wrote:I'm trying to give $75 for a mOld on Marlin Owners (expensive to me) but I can't get a usable PM.
On the left is the original TLC311-165-RF which was renamed TLC311-170-RF. On the right is the second 30-30 Win bullet that became the TLC-311-165-RF. I also offered this bullet as a C311-165-RF, a standard lube groove bullet.
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Re: I need an opinion on a mould value ......
I cast a few from the new moulds last night . Lordy I like to never got the 4 holer hot enough to cast good bullets . When it did settle down it I got .262 dia at 95 gr and some whiskers in the vent lines . I am a victim of impatience it looks like the previous owners preservation went hard scale and is holding the mould open a little .
The 257312 is pretty wide across the nose it should thump pretty good . I included the 266s also .
The 257312 is pretty wide across the nose it should thump pretty good . I included the 266s also .
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